Tuesday, June 23, 2026
ASROC or Helicopters?
Tuesday, June 9, 2026
US Helo Crew Rescued By Drone!
https://www.newsmax.com/us/drone-boat-rescue-us-pilots/2026/06/09/id/1259057/
Monday, May 12, 2025
Surface Ship Aviation
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| OS2U Kingfisher |
Monday, November 20, 2023
DDH Hayler
Monday, March 13, 2023
Iwo Jima Class LPH and Vertical Assault
The Iwo Jima class carrier was the first purpose built
vertical assault (helicopter) amphibious ship.
In this post, we’re going to take a look at its original design
rationale, abilities, and limitations and examine whether those have remained
relevant today.
… concluded that a few atomic bombs could easily destroy the concentrated shipping and also the beachhead of any classical amphibious assault.[1]As described by Friedman[1], the Marines settled on the helicopter as the means to achieve physical dispersion of both ships at sea and troops on land. The greater range of the helicopter would allow the host ships to more widely disperse and would allow the troops to land at more widely dispersed locations thus avoiding the concentrations that an atomic bomb would easily destroy.
Even larger helicopters were proposed, but the Marines were reluctant to adopt one that could lift many more than twenty men in view of the high vulnerability of individual craft.[1][emphasis added]The Marines recognized that concentrating greater numbers of troops in a vehicle that was inherently non-survivable would be a mistake. In comparison, today’s MV-22 transport is rated for 24-32 troops which raises the concentration of risk issue that the Marines were afraid of. To be fair, most sources state that the MV-22 troop capacity is not actually achievable in real world applications.
The Marines concentrated on the requirements of a divisional assault, which were considerable. For example, a January 1951 study envisaged lifting 10,000 men and 3,000 to 4,000 short tons of material. Total lift, then, would be 520 HRSs [ed. Sikorsky H-19] or 208 HR2Ss, which in turn would require, in the former case, 20 escort carriers with 20 helicopters each, accommodating 150 to 200 tons of cargo, 500 to 600 assault marines, and a 200-man helicopter squadron.[1]This focus on division level assaults was a far cry from our current MEU/ARG (3-ship Amphibious Ready Group) and disaggregated ARG which employs the three ships of the ARG separately. Of course, in the event of a genuine assault operation, multiple MEU/ARGs would aggregate to form MEBs (Marine Expeditionary Brigade) and MEFs (Marine Expeditionary Force) although these aggregations are never exercised and constitute a theoretical capability, only. Further, with the elimination of tanks, reduction in artillery, elimination of heavy mortars, and lack of anti-air vehicles it is highly debatable that MEBs/MEFs are even combat effective anymore.
Tactically, the Marines considered a flight of ten helicopters best for effective control, so that helicopter carriers were generally designed to accommodate multiples of that unit.[1]We see then, that the Marines of the time were focused on getting large numbers of helos/troops on the ground quickly as opposed to our current concept of slow, drawn out, one-at-a-time MV-22 landings due to the 250 ft aircraft-to-aircraft separations and immense cleared areas required for landing.
… May 1948, 8 helicopters from the Palau simulated a full helicopter attack of 184 aircraft flying from six CVEs, to lift a complete regimental combat team which would seize a strategic crossroads inland of the beach. … each HRP [Piasecki HRP tandem rotor helicopter] carried six passengers about ten miles from the carrier under heavy fighter cover.[1]Note the use of fighter cover. The exercises were tactically realistic as opposed to the unrealistic, set piece theater performances we call exercises today.
… over the next ten to fifteen years most existing attack cargo and transport (AKA and APA) ships would be replaced by helicopter carriers. “This will be occasioned by the VTOL aircraft becoming the principal means of placing personnel ashore under assault conditions. Supporting personnel and heavy equipment will still be landed by water-borne means but the majority of assault troops will be air-landed.”[1]Ultimately, a new design LPH, the Iwo Jima class, was built along with several Essex class conversions. The purpose-designed Iwo Jima class, not surprisingly, offered several significant advantages over the Essex conversions. Even so, the design was not without its flaws,
The amphibious force commanders criticized the Iwo Jima design for its “complete lack of landing craft, so that it is of doubtful utility under non-flying conditions and must depend on other types with landing craft to give it an over-the-beach capacity.[1]This flaw eventually led to the development of the LHA design which incorporated both aviation and a well deck to support waterborne landing craft. Interestingly, we have returned to exactly the original flawed design with the new America class variants which have no well decks.
- Helos allow the rapid transport of troops from a greater distance than waterborne landing craft.
- Troops can be delivered to safer or more strategically beneficial locations rather than to a central troop/beach concentration although safer locations also imply less operationally relevant and useful.
- The greater range of the helos allows greater separation of the helicopter carriers.
- Bad weather may ground aviation.
- Lack of waterborne landing craft prevents any other means of assault.
- Helo assault is limited to troops and light cargo. Heavy equipment, tanks, armored vehicles, etc. cannot be transported by air.
- Helos are extremely vulnerable to even modest anti-air defenses.
- Helo carriers have very limited wave transport capacity. For example, 20 helos per wave x 15-20 troops per helo = 300-400 troops per wave and that’s just troops, no equipment. It would require 5-7 waves, over many hours or multiple days, to get the full troop complement ashore and that assumes no helo attrition. The reality is that any reasonable helo attrition would likely result in a portion of the troops never getting ashore and certainly not in a timely manner.
- Limited by the need/availability of suitable cleared landing sites; such sites can be reasonably anticipated by the enemy and become fire traps as demonstrated in Vietnam.
Friday, June 10, 2022
Helicopters in Combat
We’ve done posts on the survivability of helos in combat and it isn’t good (see, “Assault MV-22” and “Helo Assault”). Going back to the horrendous helo loss rates suffered by the US in Vietnam, the same for the Soviets in Afghanistan, the loss of an entire group of 31 Apache helos in Karbala in 2003, as well as the many isolated shoot downs over the years, it is obvious that helicopters are quite vulnerable over the modern battlefield. Today, the trend in high loss rates seems to be continuing with the Russians in Ukraine.
This leads to two obvious questions:
- Is there any future in helo combat operations?
- If not, why is the US so heavily invested in helicopters?
Let’s tackle the first one.
Is there a future for helo combat ops?
The short answer is, yes, there is a combat role for helos but it is a carefully constrained role. The original vision of helos roaming the battlefield, ready to swoop down on the enemy like a diving hawk is no longer valid – if it ever was.
The overwhelming conclusion from every battlefield helo operation in history is that helos that operate on their own, unsupported, are very vulnerable and will suffer very high loss rates if the enemy has any degree of anti-air capability, whatsoever. Any enemy soldier with a man-portable, surface to air missile is a lethal threat to helos and is virtually undetectable and unstoppable. In fact, old fashioned barrage gunfire is still highly lethal and almost impossible to avoid or counter.
Hey, let’s detour, slightly, and talk about tanks for a moment. Modern tanks from foreign countries have had a tough time on the various Middle East battlefields. We see video after video of tanks being destroyed by an enemy soldier with a man-portable, anti-tank missile/rocket launcher. These soldiers are virtually undetectable and unstoppable. Are tanks useless on the modern battlefield? The answer is the same as that for helicopters.
In both cases, what we see in video after video is tanks/helos operating individually or in small units, unsupported. In that situation, tanks/helos have very poor detection capabilities – not because their sensors are particularly bad but because an individual soldier is easily concealed and very difficult to detect. It is clear that unsupported tank/helo operations are going to suffer very high loss rates. There’s nothing wrong with helos or tanks, per se; it’s the battlefield tactics and doctrine that is wrong.
I keep saying ‘unsupported’. What does that mean? What kind of support can increase the survival and effectiveness of tanks/helos?
Let’s continue with the example of tanks. ‘Support’ has historically and doctrinally been a case of infantry and tanks operating together, each supporting the other. It has been the job of the tank to supply suppressing fire, destroy fortifications, and deal with enemy vehicles while the infantry suppresses the enemy’s anti-tank troops. Infantry and tanks have to work together, providing mutual support. This is not something that can just happen spontaneously. It has to be trained and exercised, like any other tactical action. Unfortunately, the Marines have historically completely ignored this (while they still had tanks) and I see little evidence of the Army training for this.
The exact same concept applies to helicopter combat operations. Why wouldn’t it? Helos require co-ordinated ground support from the infantry (preferably mech infantry and/or armor to allow greater mobility and ground coverage). Helos can supply the stand-off fire support for the infantry while the infantry suppresses enemy anti-air capability.
We’ve seen that when helo units are sent on isolated, unsupported missions, even seemingly benign ones, it often turns out poorly (the aborted non-combat evacuation mission by a group of CV-22s in South Sudan in 2014, for example).
I’m not going to attempt to go into any greater detail about the specific tactics of helo-infantry mutual support because, frankly, I don’t know them. Land combat is outside my area of expertise. I can recognize the problem and the general solution but not the specifics.
On a related note, the same need for mutually supporting elements applies to naval operations. For example, we’ve all mocked Commandant Berger’s Light Amphibious Warfare (LAW) ship – and rightly so, for a variety of reasons – but none of us, myself included, have analyzed the LAW within the framework of a multi-component, mutually supporting force. To be fair, Berger has declined to share his operational concept whereby the supporting elements for the LAW are laid out … I suspect because there is no concept of operations (CONOPS) and there are no supporting elements. That aside, even I can’t imagine any supporting concept that would allow the LAW to be effective unless we dedicate large surface escort groups of Burkes and carriers to accompany each LAW which then totally invalidates the LAW mission. So, this failure lies at the feet of Commandant Berger but it still illustrates the idea of mutually supporting elements and the specter of failure that accompanies the lack thereof.
The overarching lesson is the need to fight as a combined arms force with each element supporting the other. This will allow each element to do what it does best and do it effectively. Militaries around the world, ours included, have failed to recognize and implement this lesson and the results have been repeated failures.
We, as observers and analysts, have also failed to recognize this lesson and we persist in assessing weapon systems in a one-on-one evaluation with no allowance for supporting elements and tactics. It’s one of my pet peeves in discussions. We need to look at the overall situation and assess how the item under discussion fits within a larger framework. Only then can we render an informed and useful judgment.
So, with all that said, is there a future for helo combat ops? Yes! … but only with proper, mutually supporting elements and well developed, highly trained tactics and doctrine … which given our lack of interest in doctrine and tactics is almost a no.
Now, the second question …
Why is the US so heavily invested in helicopters?
This one is a little harder to answer, partly because I’m not a land combat expert and partly because there is no good answer.
For the US military, with its obsession with technology, the helo is highly attractive. On paper, the helo has all the characteristics that the military loves: it’s cheap (on a relative basis!), it’s a very high density weapons platform that is packed with firepower, it’s a high tech wonder that can be constantly upgraded with ever more advanced technology, it’s extremely mobile and provides excellent area coverage, it requires less crew than a tank, and it just looks menacing and lethal (you’ve gotta love the look of an AH-65 Apache!). The problem is that paper doesn’t fight and in the real world helos are not being effectively used and, for that reason, border on combat failures. Still, it’s easy to understand the allure of the helo for US military leadership.
Another way to approach this question is to look at the reverse aspect. What if there was no such thing as helos? What would we be spending our budget on? … bullets, rifles, bombs, mines, mortars? Those things aren’t shiny and sexy! They don’t knock the socks off Congressmen who are being asked to provide funding. Sadly, our military leaders don’t want to make the effort to ‘sell’ Congress on dirty, mundane items that are – or should be - the backbone of combat. Instead, they want to hold up pictures of sexy, menacing helos. That’s how they think you get budget funds!
This kind of thinking is a symptom of the modern military affliction of laziness. Yes, laziness! We want to win wars (well, actually we don’t and haven’t really tried to win a war since WWII but that’s another topic) but we don’t want to do the hard, dirty work that’s required. We want a clean, dainty, stand off weapon with precision guidance that we can easily control from well up the chain of command. Well, that’s a helo. Too lazy to crawl in the muck and do the hard work of winning a war, we’d rather zoom around and look good so … more helos!
A final ‘answer’ is yet another of the afflictions we suffer from and that is the refusal to acknowledge reality and the enemy’s competence. We assume that everything we do will work perfectly and nothing the enemy does will have any effect. With that assumption, the helo looks great! The fact that almost every battlefield example of helo combat operations has turned out poorly doesn’t even register on our leader’s minds. Enemy MANPADs may be ubiquitous but our own delusions are even more prevalent!
Conclusion
Helo combat operations are viable but only with proper doctrine, tactics, and training. We need to stop training in isolated units (helos practice a raid, for example) and start training in combined elements (helos and infantry practice a raid, for example, with air cover thrown in along with artillery support). We’re going to fight combined (I hope!) so why aren’t we routinely training that way? In fact, we shouldn’t train any other way.
We need to rigorously re-evaluate our helo combat doctrine and tactics. What we have is not likely to work. We need to figure out why and modify our doctrine and tactics accordingly. Where is the combined helo-infantry Top Gun school?
To be fair and repetitive, I’m not a land combat expert and perhaps some of this already exists. If so, I’d be glad to hear about it.
Monday, May 9, 2022
Illustrative Examples From Ukraine
While I have emphatically warned about drawing lessons from the Ukraine-Russia war, there are still some illustrative examples to be had. These are illustrative in the sense that they describe a lesson without requiring complete and accurate data. In other words, the points and lessons can be discerned whether all the facts are known or not. Let’s take a look at a couple of illustrative examples.
Vertical Assault
At the onset of combat, Russia launched a massive helicopter assault to seize the Hostomel air base which is just 6 miles outside Kiev. Reports suggest that 20-30+ helicopters (Mi-8 escorted by Ka-52) were used and that the airfield was quickly secured.
History has demonstrated, repeatedly, that helo operations over contested battlefields are costly and this held true in this case. The initial attack was costly with videos showing several helos shot down during their approach to the airfield.
The Russian’s initial success did not last, however. Reports indicate that the 4th Rapid Response Brigade of the Ukraine National Guard counterattacked and partially or completely reclaimed the airfield. The brigade’s nominal composition was:
- Brigade HQ
- 1st Infantry Battalion
- 2nd Infantry Battalion
- Tank Battalion (T-64BV tanks)
- Artillery Battalion
- Anti-aircraft Missile Battalion
- Support units (drones, etc.)
The Russian force consisted of purely light infantry and lacked any armor to counter the Ukraine tanks. They had to rely on a few Su-25 strike aircraft which were, in turn, countered by Ukrainian anti-air and air support.
Control of the airfield then appeared to switch back and forth. Russia appears to have attempted to reinforce its Hostomel forces with only limited success. At this point, reports become unreliable and events are unclear.
The lesson from this illustrative example is one that history has already taught us. Airborne assault using light infantry cannot succeed without rapid reinforcement from heavier units. In addition, airborne assault will, by definition, result in an isolated and surrounded force. Rapid reinforcement from heavier ground forces is mandatory. Russia failed to quickly link up an armored relief force with the airborne infantry and, thus, failed in their objective to quickly secure the airfield as an operational hub and springboard into Kiev.
The US military, and the Marines, in particular, are counting heavily on vertical assault despite extremely heavy historical losses and without any realistic exercises to demonstrate the viability of the concept. We desperately need to re-examine our vertical assault operational concepts and doctrine and prove/disprove it with realistic field exercises. History suggests that the concept is not viable against a peer enemy.
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Self-deception
It appears that the Russian military may have suffered from a case of self-deception about the degree of expertise of their soldiers and units. Without needing any actual data or proof, it is also an absolute certainty that Putin was being told what he wanted to hear regarding capabilities and readiness. Passing on only positive news to your boss is simply an ingrained bureaucratic and human tendency. When your boss is a despotic dictator who will kill you if he doesn’t like what you tell him, the already overwhelming tendency becomes an absolute certainty.
We can see the exact same thing happening to the US military, today, if perhaps not to the exact same degree (though likely not much different). As evidenced by their impossibly optimistic statements about our capabilities and readiness, our leaders are either repeating the end result of being fed falsely positive assessments or they’re out and out lying. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they’re being fed falsely positive assessments.
Summary
As noted and cautioned, the details of the examples may not be completely correct but the generalized lessons stand and the Ukraine examples illustrate the lessons. Ukraine is a priceless opportunity for the US military to re-examine and refine/eliminate many of its concepts and beliefs. We absolutely must start injecting reality into our concepts and our training. We need to stop lying to ourselves about the magnificence of our weapon systems and start testing them realistically and evaluating them through the ruthless and unforgiving lens of life or death combat.
Thursday, September 3, 2020
Naval Stealth Helicopter
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| HAL Light Combat Helicopter |
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| Eurocopter Tiger |











