Monday, May 20, 2019

Threat Surrogate Status

We’ve often discussed the Navy’s myopic focus on new, shiny, sexy ships like carriers at the expense of logistic vessels, drydocks, depot maintenance, shipyard improvements, testing facilities and equipment, etc. – you know, all the things that actually make a navy function and contribute to readiness. 

One of the specific problem areas is threat surrogates.  While we’d like to test Aegis against a Chinese or Russian missile, we usually don’t have any available to us.  Thus, we have to use threat surrogates – another, similar, asset that can mimic the real threat to a sufficient degree as to allow meaningful and useful testing. 

This seems simple enough.  If we don’t have a particular Chinese missile, we should be able to modify and mock up some existing missiles to simulate the Chinese missile’s flight profile, on-board ECM, speed, terminal maneuvers, seeker/sensor radiations, etc.  While the one-off, hand modified nature of such a threat surrogate will result in a high cost compared to the cost of the base production missile, the cost is virtually free compared to the Navy’s overall budget or the cost of the acquisition program it is intended to be used in.

For example, if we want to develop and deploy a new submarine sonar, a program that would cost billions to research, develop, and install, the cost of a diesel sub surrogate – a modified torpedo, in essence – would likely be a few million dollars which is round off error in the math of the billion(s) dollar sonar program.  We’d have to be idiots to try to scrimp and forego acquiring the needed threat surrogates to thoroughly test our systems just to save some fraction of a fraction of a percent of the cost of the parent program, right?

Well, sadly and unbelievably, that’s exactly what the Navy is doing.  They’re routinely refusing to acquire the threat surrogates needed to test our shiny new systems.  Here’s some quotes on the subject from the 2017 DOT&E Annual Report.  I’ve included the page numbers with the quotes so you can read them yourself because I’m pretty sure you’re not going to believe the degree of stupidity these shortcomings demonstrate.

What’s one of the major threats to the Navy?  Why it’s shallow water non-nuclear submarines (SSK), of course!  Obviously we must have threat surrogates for those, right?  Wrong.

No assessment can be made against operationally relevant midget and coastal diesel submarine threats because the Navy does not have any test surrogates that accurately represent these platforms. (p. 152)


Continuing with submarines and sonar, the undersea warfare combat software needs torpedo threat surrogates to test against.  We’ve got hundreds (thousands?) of torpedoes.  How hard could it be to tweak some into enemy torpedo threat surrogates for something as important as testing the main undersea combat control software?  I’m sure we must have torpedo threat surrogates, right?  Wrong.

A representative threat torpedo surrogate is needed to adequately assess future AN/SQQ-89A(V)15 variants.  (p. 152)


Along the same lines, the LCS ASW module has various pieces of equipment intended to detect and defeat submarines and torpedoes.  We must have torpedo threat surrogates for use in testing the LCS ASW module, right?  Wrong.

Current test surrogates have significant limitations representing threat torpedoes.  (p. 191)


Aegis is the foundation of our entire naval defense capability.  We don’t even need to ask whether the Navy has provided for an Aegis surrogate test bed ship, right?  Wrong.

To adequately assess the Probability of Raid Annihilation requirement for the self-defense mission for Flight III DDG 51 destroyers/ACB-20, the Navy must provide … an Aegis-equipped Self-Defense Test Ship (SDTS) where the ship’s full self-defense kill chain can be tested.  (p. 139)


Our close range air defense is the Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM).  I’ll bet we must have an adequate anti-ship missile surrogate because I know we have drones, including a supersonic one, right?  Wrong.

The Navy has not completed the following previous recommendations:

Develop a Multi-Stage Supersonic Target adequate for use in a phase of RAM Block 2 FOT&E.  (p. 209)

Develop an improved steerable antenna system for its ASCM surrogates. (p. 209)


The America class LHA uses the standard Ship Self-Defense System (SSDS) installed on all amphibious ships.  The SSDS is the standard for all amphibious ships and has been around for quite some time so we must have fully developed threat surrogates, right?  Wrong.

… the Navy has not resolved the following previous recommendations related to LHA 6 ship self-defense:

Develop an open-loop seeker subsonic ASCM surrogate target for ship self-defense combat system operational tests.  (p. 212)

Develop an adequate Multi-Stage Supersonic Target (MSST) and electronic warfare target surrogates for operational testing.  (p. 213)


You’ll recall that the Navy fielded a torpedo defense system on carriers in response to an Urgent Operational Need (UON) requirement.  If any system would have adequate threat surrogates it would have to be a carrier protection system developed for a UON, right?  Wrong.

The Navy has not accredited the surrogate torpedo targets used for testing as representative of any real-world threat torpedo.  (p. 225)


I can go on listing the threat surrogate deficiencies but you get the idea.  For reasons that totally elude me, the Navy steadfastly, adamantly, stubbornly, and stupidly refuses to fund and acquire the requisite threat surrogates to allow adequate testing.  There’s simply no excuse.  Compared to the cost of the parent acquisition programs, the surrogates are free.  This is just inexplicable stupidity on a scale that defies belief (geez, I seem to say that in a lot of posts, don’t I?).

19 comments:

  1. Let me answer some of these. You need to have stealthy diesel electric submarines to test defenses against these submarines. You dont have any. But you do have allies that have them.

    In terms of the other theat surrogates you mention, you have to develop the surrogate which is really expensive. For example a multistage supersonic antiship missile. I think in this case a supersonic artillery shell travelling at 900m/s would suffice. If a ram can hit that it could probably hit a klub missile.

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    1. "you have to develop the surrogate which is really expensive."

      As stated in the post, the cost of surrogate development is almost free compared to the overall cost of the intended program.

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  2. I love the US Navy, but the system is broken. In no way is the Navy close to being ready for major combat duties vs. Russia or China. Shameful.

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    1. That's why I do this blog - to try to nudge the Navy towards being better prepared. I get lots of feedback from active duty personnel so I know the blog is being read at all levels. My hope is that it will have some small influence on Navy decisions from time to time.

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  3. The pretty obvious reason is USN doesn't want to know how all these weapons work....with virtually every program being tough enough to keep alive in Congress being way late and over budget, can you imagine if after all the delays and money spent, they actually did fire a missile at AEGIS and it scored or LCS ASW can't find a sub or F35 isn't that invisible to a Chinese radar...what that would do to all these programs?!?

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    1. You're correct. As you say, the Navy is afraid that poor test results would threaten funding. Ironically, the opposite is true. Congress understands that every new item needs testing and will require debugging and fixing. What they don't understand is signing up for 55 LCS before the first one is designed, let alone tested. What they don't understand is piling up non-existent technology on top of non-existent technology (Ford).

      If the Navy would design single prototypes and be up front about the need for testing and the absolute certainty of problems, Congress would gladly fund the development. The Navy, in their attempt to 'outsmart' Congress, actually creates the very resistance in Congress that they want to avoid.

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    2. "Congress understands that every new item needs testing and will require debugging and fixing."

      Citations? I am doubtful about this idea. The USN's behaviour makes sense if you assume that its main priority, as set by its paymasters, is to spend money with contractors.

      This is no way to be ready to fight a war, but preparing for that would involve implications that the last thirty years have been largely devoted to wasting money. The Navy is naturally not keen to suggest that, so they don't risk doing so.

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    3. "Citations? I am doubtful about this idea. "

      Congress has repeatedly and consistently asked the military about maintenance, encouraged maintenance, and even prioritized maintenance over new acquisitions (the Navy absolutely fumes over this!). This demonstrates an understanding by Congress that things break and need fixing.

      Congress sided with DOT&E against the Navy when the Navy attempted to forego ship shock testing on the Ford and LCS and provided funding not only for the tests but for the LCS shock test repairs, again demonstrating that they understand that things break and don't work right when stressed.

      Congress has repeatedly (too much so!) extended funding, raised spending caps, and extended schedules of a multitude of acquisition programs in recognition of the reality that new items inevitably have problems. Congress' extreme patience with the Navy's EMALS, AAG, and weapons elevator fiascos demonstrates this clearly.

      I can go on with examples but the pattern is clear. Congress understands that new items require testing and that testing will reveal problems. Congress has not been reticent about funding, re-baselining, and extending programs that have had testing problems crop up.

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    4. Seems like Congress needs to crack the whip a fair bit harder. They're raising some of the problems, but they're letting the Navy carry on with its pattern of failure. And if they keep on with that, the Navy will keep doing the same things.

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    5. "they're letting the Navy carry on with its pattern of failure. "

      Yes, they are. Congress needs to exercise far more oversight than have been. Of course, we've already seen the outcry from the Navy about Congressional meddling when the Navy wanted to early retire the Ticos and the carrier and Congress stopped them. The Navy has no intention of allowing Congress to exercise its oversight authority. The Navy has clearly demonstrated that they'll keep working to find ways to bypass Congressional intent. The Navy has forgotten that they work for the people (meaning Congress) not the other way around.

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  4. I find this very interesting. After my fathers active duty retirement as an SOC(SS), and some postings with the Pacific Missle Test range, he worked at the LBNS, and was the guru of the sonar dept. He certified the systems (and failed many) on the new Spruances as they were delivered. Anyway, there were many items that may or may not have "came home" with him over the years. Two of the coolest items were small torpedoes that were training items that simulated Soviet submarines. So at some point, we did have at least some ASW training aids. No clue why if we had items like that in the mid/late 70s, we no longer do....

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    1. In the Cold War era, we considered the Soviet threat to be very real and, therefore, our focus was on producing the best weapons and systems possible because we might actually need them. Today, until very recently with China (if even now?), we haven't really believed that war with a peer was possible so we haven't been focused on functional systems. If you don't care whether your systems function correctly, you certainly won't spend money on new, updated threat surrogates.

      I would hope that attitude is changing but there are few signs of it and none in the testing realm.

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  5. "We’d have to be idiots to try to scrimp and forego acquiring the needed threat surrogates to thoroughly test our systems just to save some fraction of a fraction of a percent of the cost of the parent program, right?"

    "For reasons that totally elude me, the Navy steadfastly, adamantly, stubbornly, and stupidly refuses to fund and acquire the requisite threat surrogates to allow adequate testing."

    The cynical answer for me is that they don't want to. If you come up with something that might show your fancy toy doesn't work Congress might not fund your fancy Toy. Going a bit further, Congress may not want it because they want your fancy toy and it's jobs in their district. So if we find out that Fancy Toy X is easily duped in tests by a decent threat surrogate then, well, it looks bad.

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  6. Seems like the MALD ADM-160xx, would make a good surrogate,
    at least for a high subsonic ASM. It already is used a decoy so has ecm capability, and is produced is some numbers.

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    1. Any number of missiles could make a suitable basis for tweaking to simulate an enemy missile. That's not really the issue. The issue is why the Navy refuses to pay the almost free cost (relative to the parent program) to tweak the missile and produce a suitable surrogate. The basis is there. The technology is there. They simply refuse to do it.

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  7. The lack of surrogates—and therefore lack of important testing—seems symptomatic of a shift in overall thinking that there aren’t any real enemies because free trade prevents it. That because we trade with China they won’t fight us. Iran is crazy but small and letting them sell their oil they aren’t really a threat. North Korea is a joke, etc etc. So the Navy becomes a jobs and research program. That mindset is not changing at the top because it is less a threat assessment than a belief system.
    It is taught at colleges and even the service academies that between nuclear deterrence and free trade peer war is impossible . No one easily changes beliefs. The best hope is that perhaps someone at the top will start retiring these people and promoting warriors, but I fear that may have to be pushed on the USN from the outside as it is entrenched internally.

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  8. The real frustrating part is that other services like the USAF have shown that it is possible to privatize to some extant OPFOR and keep the expenses pretty low. I recall some company just bought something like 50 jet fighters to operate as aggressors, I can't recall exactly which company but I think it's Dynacor or Carlyle group that operates a lot of Nellis Ref Flag range and all the SAM gear, some company even offered private air to air tanking, lots cheaper than USAF tankers. The Brits had some company operate a small fleet of Falcon 200s so RN can practice against simulated subsonic ASMs, I'll have to look it up but I still think they exist.

    The point being some of these "surrogates" might not even be a big problem for USN to find and operate, just put out some bids and let the private sector figure it out! Not saying every surrogate could be off-shored to the private sector BUT start with the "easy" ones and go from there.

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    1. " just put out some bids and let the private sector figure it out! "

      Very good idea!

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    2. While the Navy is happy to hop on the 355 ship bandwagon, we need a different tune.
      For now let’s focus on a 275 ship fleet whose ships are realistically tested. Ships manned with sufficient crew that are extensively trained. Ships with logistics and maintenance chain that is well funded, efficient, and protected from enemy attack.

      Paper tigers can’t growl, only living ones.

      China knows that even if we had a 400 ship fleet, if it can’t sail due to maintenance issues or fight due to poor testing. They don’t have to have a fleet that is as big as ours to be superior. Just a dependable one.

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