Tuesday, March 19, 2019

The Roots Of Failure

In this blog, we have often discussed that the roots of future failure (without using that exact phrase!) are being formed today.  Most of them are quite evident and do not require hindsight decades from now.  They are clear to see, today, and I’m pointing them out, frequently.  The list of failure roots is long and I’m not going to bother reciting them. 

With that backdrop, I read an article in Breaking Defense that discusses the roots of failure and is authored by someone who has been in the military system at the highest levels: Lani Kass - special assistant to Air Force Chief of Staff Michael Moseley. (1)  The article offers some fascinating, thought-provoking theories about the roots of failure, not just theoretically but specifically.

The article’s author sets her stage with a reference to a book about systemic failure, “Why Air Forces Fail”, edited by Robin Higham and Stephen J. Harris, which suggests the determinants of failure:

  • deficiencies in the industrial base
  • misguided technology and tactical picks
  • inattention to logistics and neglect of training

These determinants are problematic, to be sure, but they seem a bit too ‘in the weeds’ for a discussion about systemic roots of failure.  Systemic failure factors should be at a higher, broader level.  The article’s author seems to agree and offers a different view with her own candidates for the roots of failure:

  • aggressors tend to assume risks that seem irrational — and, thus, improbable — to the intended victim. This leads to strategic dislocation, and, potentially, catastrophic failure
  • credibility born of past successes rarely suffices as a deterrent
  • hubris kills

I would, perhaps, pick a different set of failure roots but let’s ignore that and look deeper into the author’s thoughts. 

The author proceeds to throw out one incredibly fascinating and thought-provoking statement after another!  For example, she expands on her first failure root,

First, aggressors tend to assume risks that seem irrational — and, thus, improbable — to the intended victim. This leads to strategic dislocation, and, potentially, catastrophic failure. (1) (emphasis added)

The concept of ‘strategic dislocation’ is extremely insightful.  The enemy does something we dismissed as unlikely, improbable, or impossible and, when he actually does it, we’re left staring in bewilderment with no plan at hand to counter the action.  Consider the rise of ISIS – no one saw it coming and we obviously had no plan to counter it.  At a smaller, tactical level, consider the use by ISIS of ‘technicals’ - pickup trucks with guns bolted on.  We didn’t anticipate it and had no plan to counter them except the use of carrier groups and front line F-18 Hornets to conduct truck plinking.  Consider China’s construction of illegal artificial islands.  It’s something we never would have thought of doing and so we didn’t anticipate China doing it and, yet, they did and we were left dumbfounded and without a clue what to do about it.  We still haven’t figured out what to do about it and, as a result, the Chinese have annexed the entire South China Sea without firing a shot and with hardly even a strongly worded protest from us!  Consider Russia’s annexation of Crimea and invasion of Ukraine.  We didn’t anticipate it and had no effective response.  And so on.

In previous posts, we’ve discussed the need to war game and think about things from the enemy’s side and try to anticipate what they’ll do, however unlikely we think it to be.  Instead, what do we do?  We conduct the Millennium Challenge 2002 and hand wave away all the improbable and impossible actions taken by the Red force that, apparently, utterly defeated our Blue force. 

We need to war game the improbable and, seemingly, impossible actions our enemies might take rather than dismiss them just because we’d never consider doing them.

The author continues to throw out insightful statements.  For instance,

The U.S. must balance current exigencies with future requirements. Any single-focus approach bears a huge opportunity cost. The world has not taken a time-out to allow the U.S. to tend to Iraq and Afghanistan. Instead, competitors exploited the emphasis on the lower end of the conflict spectrum to leapfrog in areas where the U.S. took its dominance for granted. (1)

Admittedly, this is authored from the vantage point of hindsight but the common sense of it transcends time.  We focused exclusively on third world terrorism and allowed our conventional military to degrade and wither.  We gave up our institutional knowledge of amphibious assaults, we built non-combat LCS vessels, we adopted technology over strategy, we light-sized our Army and Marines, we shed tanks and artillery in favor of glorified jeeps, etc.  The military (uniformed and civilian leaders alike) lost sight of their main mission which is to defeat peer enemies and to do so decisively.  We assumed the world would wait patiently while we took care of Iraq and Afghanistan.  Well, the world didn’t wait and now we’re faced with resurgent peer enemies who have their own plans while we lurch from one stupid idea to another in lieu of an actual plan.

Another gem,

Future conflicts will be more lethal and more difficult to control than ever. The potential for strategic surprise is high, and the military’s residual capacity is at a historic low. (1)

The recognition that the military’s ‘residual capacity’ is at an historic low is profound.  We’ve dispensed with reserve fleets, consolidated our defense industries (industrial base) to just a few, closed shipyards, eliminated multiple types of ships and aircraft in favor of just a very few, regulated many suppliers out of business, forced defense companies to merge, abandoned many types of highly effective munitions (cluster munitions, ballistic missiles), allowed weapon development to stagnate (torpedoes, anti-ship cruise missiles, naval guns), and failed to secure strategic mineral sources.

And,

Concepts and structures, valid for a specific time and place, should not be allowed to become dogma. That too is a prescription for failure. (1)

This has been happening for some time and continues to happen.  For example, we are, seemingly, locked into the dogma of stealth as our ‘advantage’ despite the daily evidence that stealth is becoming less and less effective.  We continue to build Burkes because, well, we always have and always will.  Who cares that they do not have the power, utilities, size, and weight or growth margins to accommodate new radars and weapons?

Debacles-in-the-making develop over time, usually offering plenty of opportunities to spot them and correct the downward spiral. (1)

Isn’t that what this blog is – a series of observations/opportunities to spot and correct the downward spiral?  The debacles of tomorrow are being clearly pointed out, here, today.

What prevents that course correction are systemic deficiencies, wishful thinking, and the inherent human ability to adjust to a “new normal” –the fluctuating baseline of what is deemed acceptable. (1)

Spot on!  Consider how the US moved relentlessly from a requirement to win two major wars, simultaneously, to a major war and a regional conflict, then two regional conflicts, then one regional conflict while holding another.  We rationalized each change so that we could accept it without ever recognizing that the threats didn’t decrease – just our ability to fight them decreased.  Each time we rationalized our decreased capabilities we congratulated ourselves with our new strategic wisdom and celebrated with brilliant white papers and reports.  Heck, we even had to coin a new phrase, ‘regional conflict’, in recognition of our inability to conduct and win an actual war!  Now, we don’t talk about ‘war’, we talk about ‘regional conflict’ as if it were a rowdy soccer crowd rather than an implacable enemy bent on our destruction.

Consider the steady decrease in the size of our carrier force from dozens, post-WWII, to, eventually, 15 and then 14, 13, 12, 11, and now the Navy wants to drop to 10.  With each decrease, we rationalized the change as ‘good’ and right in line with our new strategies – themselves downsized and rationalized.

Unfortunately, this is where my praise for the author comes to a screeching and disappointing halt.  The rest of her article basically violates her own warnings about failure by descending into Air Force parochialism and pitching the case for the F-35 as the salvation of the military.  She states,

No modern war has been won without air superiority. (1)

This is historically, demonstrably false.  North Vietnam kicked the US out of the country with a complete absence of air superiority.  North Korea/China fought the US/South Korea to a standstill with a complete absence of air superiority.  The Taliban are in the process of winning in Afghanistan with a complete absence of air superiority.

She goes on to describe the wonders of the F-35, thereby ignoring or violating her own warnings about dogma (F-35 stealth), debacles in the making (is there a better example of a debacle than the F-35?), the opportunity cost of ‘single focus’ (is there a more stunning example of ‘single focus’ than the F-35?), and the human tendency to accept the ‘new normal’ (is there a better example of our acceptance of the ‘new normal’ than the downgraded and deferred F-35 capabilities?).

I’m not going to rehash the multiple shortcomings of the F-35.  We’ve done that enough and you can check out the archives if you want to revisit that.  I’m also not going to allow the author’s flawed closing to detract from the brilliance of her preceding discussion.  Unfortunately, it seems as if the author failed to read her own writing!  Regardless, I urge you to read the linked article.  It offers some truly profound thoughts.




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(1)Breaking Defense, “US Air Power: The Imperative For Modernization (Buy The F-35) ”, Lani Kass, 18-Mar-2019,
https://breakingdefense.com/2019/03/us-air-power-the-imperative-for-modernization-buy-the-f-35/

37 comments:

  1. No industrial base to replace anything that gets killed. Check.
    F-35's that may have a rain problem. Check.
    Basing of F-22 and F-35 in non hardened hangers that can be mortared from adjacent highways/motel parking lots. Check.
    Untrained undisciplined porn watching LGBTQ affirmative action crewed ships steering into cargo ships. Check.
    On the bright side however consider china. Geographically they could not be in a worse place. Stuck in a bathtub. The first
    island chain with our continuous network "key line"? surrounding them, containing them must drive them nuts. I'll take our geography our experience and our stuff over theirs any day! On a sad note, it will take a asymmetrical surprise attack most likely from china to wake us up. Boy will they be surprised when
    they find out about why shit is so expensive.

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    1. "Stuck in a bathtub."

      I assume you're referring to being ringed in by the first island chain. That cuts both ways. China's near term goals are to seize territories around the periphery rather than venture out into the Pacific. Thus, the 'bathtub' becomes a defensive moat, keeping the US out and providing an enormous buffer zone (A2/AD) around the mainland.

      Consider the issue from that perspective and tell me what you think.

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    2. My assumptions are that we would control who/what leaves the
      first island chain while china would not be able to do the same. I also assume we would control Okinawa even if the Japanese gov "officially objected". I do not believe the SCS artificial islands are defensible. Given those assumptions I believe their (A2/AD) within the first island chain would be weak. I have always thought we could "contain" them in the "bathtub". Thoughts?

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    3. For the near to moderate future, China has no reason to want to leave the first island chain so containing them within that region doesn't really accomplish anything.

      What do we do when they seize Taiwan or Vietnam? We can't retake them (assuming we would want to) without entering the E/S China Seas.

      Okinawa would be eliminated as a useful base on the first day of a conflict. It's a fixed location and ballistic missiles are very effective against a fixed, weakly defended site.

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  2. I submit that Korea and Vietnam were exceptions as we were fighting a limited war in both countries. The Air Force and Navy were limited as to where they could fly and what targets they could strike from the air. The goal was to defeat communist aggression in Southwest Asia. We succeeded in Korea, but lost in Vietnam.

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    1. We had overwhelming air superiority. What we chose to do with it is up to us. The NVietnamese won without air superiority, plain and simple. Same with the Korean War. We failed to win despite overwhelming air superiority. Plain and simple. You can make all the excuses you want but the facts are straightforward and the author's claim is false.

      I'm not going to waste any more time debating this especially given all the great potential discussion points raised in the post.

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    2. Our success in Korea may prove temporal; depends on what shape Korean reunification takes and the how the resulting state calculates its strategic and economic relationships.

      GAB

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  3. A well written and thoughtful article. Its interesting that it used hindsight towards more recent events, yet as I read it I applied the points to WWII lessons and found them equally valid. Sadly I feel the current mistakes being made are more grave and irrepairable than those made prior to 1941. The points made in the article totally reinforce my belief in the idea of "those not studying (and applying lessons of) history are bound to repeat it"...

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  4. "...than those made prior to 1941..."

    What mistakes before 1941. I think it is fair to say the US has deviated from its historic norm of not really having a standing military unless at war and being prepared to accept all those mistakes as the cost on not spending on a real military until we decide to go to war (*).

    But with the cold war (and particularity the JFK post Korean war era ) we have I think decided to have a war time military but can't quite figure out how that works right now.

    Since the post mentions China (and recently China in Africa) one thing the USN is supposed to be good at is soft power... Anyone see if an Amphibious group or a Hospital ship is going to show up off Mozambique any time soon because they looked shafted at what week on. Be nice if somebody recalls us for something besides drone attacks.

    * essentially the two ocean navy act and the embargoes coming at a point when the administration was more sure it had the backing to push Japan to war in congress and the public. But no way the act gets passed before Japan ignored complaints about China and if the UK and France had come up another deal to avoid a European war. US preparations were reactive.

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    1. "Concepts and structures, valid for a specific..."
      The BB vs CV debate in the USN between the wars was only offset/remidied by the expanded shiobuilding programs in the years just before our entry into the war. While Naval aviation was here to stay, the majority of navy brass felt the BB was still tip of the sword until Pearl Harbor.

      "Credibility born of past..."
      The moving of Pacific Fleet to Hawaii as a deterrent clearly didnt work. The Japanese werent overawed, intimidated, or deterred by the USN or its successful recent past.

      "Aggressors tend to assume risks..."
      I cant imagine a better example than Dec 7th. At least we used that principle well on D-day...

      "What prevents that course correction..."
      In spite of their successes in Asia, we were in a general denial that the stereotyped short, pudgy, nearsighted Japanese could rise to be a competent peer threat. Having a naval power in the Pacific that could beat the USN was the "new normal" that many didnt take seriously until we had to face it. Human nature (along with a dose of racism) allowed us to overlook the enemys capacity for equal or even superior technological and tactical capabilities, much to our distress later on.

      The writer of the article made some timeless points. There are a lot of parallels between now and the pre-WWII years. Hopefully hindsight can be applied to possibly help avoid repeating mistakes, because theres no "resudial capacity", and no great industrial might that can rise up to save the day anymore. We need to plan, build, and train under the assumption that the war starts tomorrow, and that we will end the war with whatever we started it with...


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    2. " I think it is fair to say the US has deviated from its historic norm of not really having a standing military unless at war and being prepared to accept all those mistakes as the cost on not spending on a real military until we decide to go to war.

      But with the cold war (and particularity the JFK post Korean war era ) we have I think decided to have a war time military but can't quite figure out how that works right now."

      That is an absolutely fascinating statement. I'd like to see you expand on it.

      Is a sizable, standing military a good thing or bad?

      Have seen any historical documentation that we consciously made decisions about reduced peacetime military?

      What are the benefits of a greatly reduced peacetime military?

      Are the inevitable initial losses worth the benefits of a reduced peacetime military (we nearly 'lost' the Pacific war as a result of a reduced military!)?

      What are the disadvantage of a stronger peacetime military?

      And so on.

      You've made a thought provoking statement - now expand on it.

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    3. "The moving of Pacific Fleet to Hawaii as a deterrent clearly didnt work. "

      Fascinating statement. Do you know of any documentation that explicitly states that this is why we established Hawaii as the base of the fleet? Regardless, the presence of the fleet certainly didn't deter Japan and, instead, offered a convenient target. Would Japan have initiated war if the bulk of the fleet were in California and safely out of reach?

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    4. "I cant imagine a better example than Dec 7th. "

      To be fair and accurate, the US absolutely anticipated Pearl Harbor. In fact, we ran war games that almost exactly simulated the attack. We knew, to within a few weeks, when the Japanese would attack. The problem was that we didn't defend the base effectively for reasons that remain unknown.

      The exact moment of the attack was a surprise but the concept and likelihood was far from it.

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    5. I don't have a specific source for the reasoning behind the move to Pearl. I will try and find some. Its a tough question whether they would've still attacked eastward. But without doing massive damage to the fleet, they knew that the tide could turn rapidly. So no, I dont think they wouldve attacked, as the Navy was its main target. Their move into the Phillipines and the occupying of Guam, Wake, possibly Midway is as far as theyd of gone, and wouldve which might have not even caused our entry into the war... War was inevitable,but the Pac Fleet at Pearl served them up a best chance opportunity to achieve their goals.

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    6. "But without doing massive damage to the fleet, they knew that the tide could turn rapidly. So no, I dont think they wouldve attacked,"

      So, what you're suggesting is that forward presence and deterrence, far from preventing war, actually might have encouraged it by providing an overwhelmingly appealing first strike target! I love the thought. Seriously, I may have to do a post on this.

      Can you think of any other historical examples where forward presence encouraged a war? Falklands, maybe?

      Great comment.

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    7. Of course, if we had held the fleet back in California and war came anyway, could we have successfully fought a Pacific campaign without the forward base of Pearl Harbor? I would assume the Japanese would have seized Hawaii rather than allow it to be used as a forward base. Would retaking Pearl Harbor have been our first island assault, rather than Guadalcanal? And, could we have executed it from California? Hmm … another post?

      Do you have any interest in doing a guest post on the subject, since you brought it up?

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    8. The official move of PacFlt to Pearl was significant, yet even beforehand, we maintained quite a presence in Hawaii. The air raid is one thing, but an invasion is another, and Im not sure they had the capability considering the distances and manpower requirements of such an operation. The smaller outposts of Wake and Midway, sure, but IDK about Hawaii. And while success in that endeavour wouldve certainly hamstrung our eventual march west, I feel that strategically they were more correctly concerned with our offensive naval capabilities. Seizing Hawaii without destroying the fleet wouldve been a short term, eventually indefensible position for them that wouldve raised the ire of America without the relative military impact that the air raid had (which of course wasnt all that substantial when no carriers were present). Having said that, Id say yes, our hoped-for deterrent in fact invited the attack by making the strategic goals of the Japanese easier to attain.(theres a potential modern parallel here with Japan based forces, but...)
      I agree that weve opened an interesting can of worms here... Im flattered by the guest post offer, thank you!! I highly respect this blog and your opinions and find it informative, enlightening, and consistently thought provoking!!! Ill start some research and see what comes up!!

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    9. This concept calls into question the idea of Guam as a forward base against China. Is it providing deterrence or acting as an overwhelmingly appealing first strike target for China, thereby INCREASING the likelihood of war?

      If you'd like to pursue a guest post, leave your email address (I'll delete it the moment I see it so it doesn't remain public) and I'll contact you. You can spell out the 'at' and 'dot' portions and break it up so that bots don't latch on.

      One way or another, this has to become a post!

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    10. Received, deleted for privacy, and an email has been sent.

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    11. I think "INCREASING the likelihood" and the posturing/readiness of a forward force is linked. Lets use the Pearl Harbor example again. Historically the deterrent value was nil. BUT... If the fleet had been on a full war footing, with the ships sortieing randomly, staying out of port long enough that their whereabouts could become a serious concern (are they gonna show up at Wake?? Manila?? Just over the horizon from our strike force??). While in port adding long range air patrols flying out daily, maybe a comprehensive picket line a few hundred miles off Hawaii, and making it public knowledge etc, the air raid would have been a nearly impossible operation to pull off, with significantly higher chances of detection/failure. The posturing and readiness of forward deployed forces could (at least back then) have altered their true deterrent value. How well,if at all, that works today, well, thats certainly debateable. Todays tactical situation is different, and Im not sure how we could make a deterrent force more threatening. But I see shades of my conclusions in Mattis' idea of scrambling CVBG deployment schedules...

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    12. Excellent conjecture. Someone should do a post on this!

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    13. "The exact moment of the attack was a surprise but the concept and likelihood was far from it."

      I have to disagree with the "likelihood" portion... If we had viewed an attack as likely, or very likely, I have to believe the defensive measures and posturing would have been truly commensurate with that threat level. So while we knew it was possible, veiwing it as improbable is what allowed it to happen...

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    14. No indication of email failure at my end. Check your spam folder. I've resent. Let me know.

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    15. "I have to disagree with the "likelihood" portion... "

      No, we knew the attack was a near certainty. There was some disagreement about whether the Philippines would be attacked first or not. A series of warnings, each more explicit, was issued to all Pacific commands in the weeks leading up to Pearl Harbor. Why the Pearl Harbor commanders failed to take precautions is unclear. Pearl Harbor command did set up radar (anticipating an attack) just prior to the attack and they did, in fact, detect the incoming raid but didn't recognize it for what it was. We were ran a couple of war games simulating exactly the Pearl Harbor attack because it was viewed as likely. And so on.

      The entire 'who knew what, when' question about Pearl Harbor makes for fascinating history and we'll never know for sure but there was clearly more than sufficient anticipation and warning which makes the lack of defensive preparation all the more baffling.

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    16. Relative to Hawaii being home to the Pacific Fleet, what other choices were there? Hawaii is a 5-day cruise from the mainland and within range of many aircraft of the day. Even if the Pacific Fleet was based on the mainland, Hawaii would have been logical place for a refueling and maintenance base.

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    17. "what other choices were there?"

      That's the question, isn't it? I think we've got a post coming to address this topic so stay patient!

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  5. With respect, you may be whistling past the graveyard.

    Assume at best the Phils stay neutral, and I wouldn’t count on that.

    Also assume we lose every GPS sat and Comsat, both military and civilian in the first few hours of a war.

    We’ve already established we have nav issues even with GPS.

    Oops!

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  6. Why are Americans so unwilling to understand that China has more borders than just the one with the China Sea? For a start, to the North is a large empty space with huge mineral resources that we know the Chinese need and which are a lot closer than Africa and not as subject to inderdiction. If I wanted to do something that the US isn't considering, I'd be sending my forces there. The Russians can't stop the Chinese without resorting to nukes and their Pacific Fleet can be taken in 5 mins by taking Vladivostock which is only just over the border. This then opens up the sea of Okhotsk which is outside the first island chain and threatens Japan's northern flank.

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    1. We've mentioned this a few times though you've done a nice job of laying out the northern land case. The main reason I see this as unlikely is that it would lead to China potentially facing a war with an allied force of Russia, Japan, and the US. If this happened, it would put China in a position of having to fight a northern land war and a southern/eastern sea and air war - a two front war, in essence. I don't think China would be willing to risk it.

      The rewards for China would be great but the risks even greater. A victorious China would gain immeasurably, as you point out, however, a defeat would mean the end of China's existence as I don't see an attacked and aggrieved Russia allowing China to remain as an intact country that would eventually threaten Russia again.

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    2. All are great comments perhaps Com nav ops could ine the What if post about the Pacific like the Dday German ones as to the attack in Pearl yes we knew a attack was most likely coming but guessed wrong Phillipines was presumed the best bet. Admiral Kimmel and General Short assumed the most likely threat was from sabotage from the native Japanese which turned out to be one of the worst military mistakes in history

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  7. Hardening Guam or Okinawa has been done in the past. Site 4 on Okinawa for example. I agree Kadena is a soft target for ballistic missiles but its a big island. Al-Udeid is also a fixed target but its hardened against missiles...

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  8. "Forward deployment causing a war."

    The Cuban missile crisis seems like another good example. The USSR began deploying ballistic missiles in Cuba in 1960-61. The U.S. responded with a Naval blockade and the CIA tried to overthrow Castro.

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  9. My question is exactly when was the Jn25 code broken was it before or after Pearl harbor we know it was broken before Midway just 6 months later just like Yamamoto had predicted Japan had 6 months to get what it wanted before the US figured out what to do and mobilize

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    1. The code was never broken in the sense that we had a complete translation of their code book. We were able to determine some words, phrases, etc. and from that could often infer meanings of coded sections. This success was cumulative and dated back to post-WWI with the precursors of JN-25.

      If you're asking, did we know from Japanese coded messages all about the Pearl Harbor attack plan, I am aware of no such evidence. It is also very unlikely that the attack plan would have ever been encoded and transmitted. Coding, at that time, was an unwieldy and laborious effort. An attack plan would have been closely held and hand delivered if necessary.

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  10. In the spirit of acting irrationally, I had a thought.

    What if every LCS was stationed at Taiwan?

    Put on 4-8 NSM, an extra seaRam, and there you gho- a big US presence, with some offensive ability, and whatever else you want the LCS to do.

    What do you guys think?

    Andrew?

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    1. To what purpose? Acting as an anti-invasion fleet missile boat? If so, there are a LOT of very small, fast, stealthy missile boat designs out there that would be much better suited.

      How would the LCS obtain targeting data for its NSM? Tie into land based radar? That could work - at least until the land based radar was destroyed which would probably happen pretty quickly!

      So, what purpose did you have in mind?

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  11. Hi CNO,

    If each lcs has 4-8 NSM and 24 Hellfires, I was thinking they could sail about 50-80nm off China's coast, from South Korea to, possibly, Vietnam.

    Having all of them there achieves certain goals:

    - A robust USA presence, which is further south, can respond quicker than sending a ship from Okinawa.

    - China's navy consists of the Naval ships, " coast guard", and fishing boats. We know they are willing to ram. This is ideal for the LCS as they can use Hellfires. A coast guard or fishing boat approaching from the rear, nearby as it ignored the warnings, it not within the firing arc of the main gun, and too close for a harpoon and the harpoon us, of course too expensive.

    The Hellfire is cheaper, and hopefully, more agile at close range. And if there are 20 of the buggers nearby, a launch of 24 Hellfires seems more useful than a 57mm gun .

    - The USA can directly threaten China- if you attack, build another island etc, our 12 LCS currently sailing will launch NSM at Beijing CCP council building and naval bases.

    - The usa is sensitive to loosing expensive ships and personnel. LCS, for its failings, is cheaper, and has less crew than an AB destroyer.

    The US would never have been so direct. This is something different, which might stop China from taking all of the Philippines.

    Andrew.

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