Following are some tidbits from the current June 2025 GAO
annual weapon systems report.
Air and Missile
Defense Radar (AMDR) – Radars are being produced and delivered while
testing is ongoing. This kind of
concurrency is what’s behind so many development and production cost overruns
and schedule delays as problems are uncovered during production and reworks
have to be performed. I simply don’t
understand what’s so hard about grasping this concept but the Navy seems
absolutely unable to get it. In this
case, it’s even worse because we’re producing the radars faster than the ships
they’re intended for and the Navy is having to warehouse the radars until
there’s a ship ready for them. Why
produce untested, undeveloped systems when we don’t even have a use for them?
Ford Class – GAO
reports the unit cost for the four Ford class carriers as $16.3B. Yikes!
CVN-79 is struggling with weapon elevator installation (what a stunning
surprise!) which will delay delivery.
The Navy may defer ‘non-critical’ work like painting until post-delivery
… yet another example of accepting an incomplete product.
F-18 IRST –
Remember back in 2007 when the Navy came up with the bright idea of attaching an
IRST sensor to the front of a fuel tank for the F-18? A simple, if less than optimal approach,
right? Well, 8 years later and they’re
still working at it and it’s still not ready.
From the GAO report,
The rest of the world has had functional IRST systems for decades.
Constellation –
Remember how the Navy has been saying for a year or more that the design of the
ship is over 90% complete? Well, they’re
now revised that down to 70% after GAO previously called them out for,
essentially, fraudulent reporting. The
program is going backward! Only the Navy
could start with a 90% design and, after years, regress to 70% … and you have
to believe even that number is probably less than honest.
Weight growth is also an issue.
Medium Landing Ship
(LSM) – The LSM is the key to the Marine’s concept of forward, hidden bases
of missile shooters but the Navy has yet to really embrace the idea of buying
the ship. Initial cost estimates from
industry apparently shocked Navy officials and they’ve been forced to start
over.
That’s surprising given how accurate Navy cost estimates usually are.
Mk 54 Torpedo –
The Mk 54 Mod 2 Advanced Lightweight Torpedo has run into cost and development
issues.
MQ-25 Stingray UAV –
The unmanned tanker has run into lots of problems.
Obsolescence???? How do you run into obsolescence problems for a brand new aircraft that hasn’t even been delivered yet? You do it by having a program take forever to get fielded. Development started in 2018 and here we are, seven years later with nothing to show for it. So, yeah, you screw around for years and you wind up with obsolescence issues before you’ve fielded the first unit.
FYI … first flight has not yet occurred … seven years
later. What’s happened to us?
You may recall that, in a first in recent times, the Navy
opted to act as the program integrator instead of industry. Well, they failed.
ORCA XLUUV – The
unmanned submersible program is sinking.
This is what happens when you develop something without a CONOPS.
Ship to Shore
Connector – This is a near duplicate replacement for the LCAC. It should have been a simple and quick
project.
Well, that’s not good but at least we aren’t building these things without having solved the problems … right? Right?
I was afraid of that. So, each problem we encounter and each solution that’s implemented will require all the previously built and delivered craft to undergo rework.
Columbia SSBN –
The price tag now sites at $10.5B each. The delivery schedule has slipped by a full
year and is likely to slip another year, according to the Navy.
Concurrency rears its head again.
Virginia SSN –
The construction rate is woefully short of what we need.
A goal of 2.3 subs per year versus the current reality of 1.1? Hmm … doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen.
Costs are higher than the Navy estimated? The Navy has underestimated every project it’s ever embarked on. At some point, don’t you have to admit that you’re incompetent to generate cost estimates and start applying something like a 100% fudge factor? Before anyone tries to defend the Navy by saying that it’s very difficult to estimate costs, note that other agencies seem to routinely estimate Navy project costs pretty accurately. Further note that ComNavOps also estimates Navy project costs pretty accurately (Constellation, for example; you can check it in the archives).
T-AGOS Surveillance
Ship – Scheduling and design issues, again.
Several years???? It’s essentially a commercial ship!
Conclusion
Who’s running these clown shows and why haven’t they been
fired yet? Wake up, Hegseth! The GAO report is telling you, loud and
clear, who to fire. Quit screwing around
and start firing people.
… while the IRST pods demonstrated capability at tactically significant ranges during operational testing, the pods were extremely unreliable. … only managed to achieve 14 hours mean time between operational mission failures—short of the 40 hours required.
The rest of the world has had functional IRST systems for decades.
In October 2024, the Navy reported 759 metric tons of weight growth from initial estimates—nearly a 13 percent increase …
Program officials said the offers they received were hundreds of millions of dollars higher than budgeted.
That’s surprising given how accurate Navy cost estimates usually are.
Program officials stated that contractors’ estimated costs to complete system development and testing were significantly higher than expected.
The MQ-25 Stingray program continues to report cost and schedule challenges that have led to a funding shortfall of $291 million. The program’s decision to delay the low-rate initial production (LRIP) contract to September 2025, and its efforts to accelerate testing replacements for at least seven components with obsolescence and other issues, contributed to a significant increase in development costs since our last report.
Obsolescence???? How do you run into obsolescence problems for a brand new aircraft that hasn’t even been delivered yet? You do it by having a program take forever to get fielded. Development started in 2018 and here we are, seven years later with nothing to show for it. So, yeah, you screw around for years and you wind up with obsolescence issues before you’ve fielded the first unit.
… the program’s software costs increased substantially since last year. Program officials attributed this increase to their 2021 decision to switch from a government-furnished ground control station to one provided by another contractor …
It is now unclear whether the Navy will transition the XLUUV to a program of record because there are no clear requirements that the XLUUV can meet ...
This is what happens when you develop something without a CONOPS.
… the program delayed its IOC date in each of our annual assessments since its originally scheduled IOC in August 2020—a total delay of more than 5 years.
Well, that’s not good but at least we aren’t building these things without having solved the problems … right? Right?
As the program continues to delay key events in its schedule, it continues to construct and deliver craft—with 25 craft either under construction or delivered to date.
I was afraid of that. So, each problem we encounter and each solution that’s implemented will require all the previously built and delivered craft to undergo rework.
The program attributed particularly slow periods of construction to out-of-sequence work that significantly disrupted planned construction events and led to large amounts of rework. According to program officials, the out-of-sequence work resulted from missing instructions in some design products that detail how to build the submarine.
Concurrency rears its head again.
The program’s 2024 construction rate fell to 1.15 submarines per year from 1.2 per year in 2023, short of the Navy’s goal of 1.5, according to program officials. …The Navy has a goal to deliver 2.3 submarines per year by the early 2030s.
A goal of 2.3 subs per year versus the current reality of 1.1? Hmm … doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen.
Construction continues to cost more than planned.
Costs are higher than the Navy estimated? The Navy has underestimated every project it’s ever embarked on. At some point, don’t you have to admit that you’re incompetent to generate cost estimates and start applying something like a 100% fudge factor? Before anyone tries to defend the Navy by saying that it’s very difficult to estimate costs, note that other agencies seem to routinely estimate Navy project costs pretty accurately. Further note that ComNavOps also estimates Navy project costs pretty accurately (Constellation, for example; you can check it in the archives).
… the program will likely miss its goal for fielding T-AGOS 25 in 2027 by several years.
Several years???? It’s essentially a commercial ship!
Ah, yes. IRST. Per NAVAIR: The U.S. Navy declared IOC for the F/A-18 E/F IRST Block II system in November 2024.
ReplyDelete(Link to NAVAIR: https://www.navair.navy.mil/news/US-Navy-FA-18-fleet-gets-enhanced-target-tracking-IRST-IOC/Tue-02042025-0944)
And from the archives: https://navy-matters.blogspot.com/2017/12/tomcat-eyes.html
The major difference here is that the AN/AAS-42 IRST was part of the design of the F-14D, it wasn't a post-production equipment modification. That approach (the smartest one, I might add) allowed for the whole sensor system to function from the get-go, with any tweaks that may or may not have to be done.
The Virginia-class SSN. I get the premise behind AUKUS, but I don't think the powers-to-be thought the US portion out all that much. How can we commit to producing SSNs for another country's navy when we are struggling to fulfill the demands of our own navy?
I believe that we are at 49 deployable SSNs with a formal requirement of 65-66.
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2024/05/09/us-navys-submarine-fleet-is-too-small-heres-how-selling-some-may-help/
"SSNs for another country's navy when we are struggling to fulfill the demands of our own navy?"
DeleteCongress has attempted to fund additional SSNs the last few years but the manufacturer has not had the production capacity. With that in mind, it seems sheer idiocy to commit to producing subs for someone else, as you note.
What does 1.1 or 1.3 submarine look like? I remember whole numbers. With AUKUS, I would almost defer to the UK to build them for the RAN. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Columbia SSBNs the bigger priority than the Virginia's? Call me crazy, but if the Ohio SSBN are unable to be extended until the Columbia's start to come on-line, wouldn't that be more of a reason to develop a SLCM-N
Deleteso the SSNs we have can launch them as a bridge or stop gap measure?