tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post8413337640798989602..comments2024-03-28T02:26:00.323-07:00Comments on Navy Matters: CNO's RemarksComNavOpshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-40528860254526424212012-12-17T05:26:34.931-08:002012-12-17T05:26:34.931-08:00Well, you're absolutely right. While the mili...Well, you're absolutely right. While the military exists to serve the public, that doesn't mean the military has to blindly go along with every dumb thing that civilian leadership comes up with. It is the responsibility of military leadership to take a stand when the military is being misused. Where were the mass resignations over the conduct of the Viet Nam war? Where were the protests over Iraq and Afghanistan, if warranted? Where are the current protests and resignations over the hollowing of today's Navy? Where are the protests and resignations over the Navy's JSF, LCS, minimal manning, INSURV failures, etc.?<br /><br />To the man of honor, there are worse things than death. Likewise, to the leader with honor, courage, and integrity, there are worse things than loss of a career when going along with idiocy means the loss of lives entrusted to you and the diminishing of national security. Firing off a memo on your way out the retirement door is not the action of an honorable and courageous man.<br /><br />Where, indeed, is today's Revolt of the Admirals? Where are the leaders with courage?ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-419613262771313502012-12-17T05:14:01.336-08:002012-12-17T05:14:01.336-08:00Jon, thanks for stopping by. Your comments concer...Jon, thanks for stopping by. Your comments concerning mine countermeasures are spot on. I shudder to think what a conflict with China will produce as regards mines. There are so many narrow chokepoints in and aroung the South/East China Seas that naval operations will severely impacted. We not only need far more MCM capability than we have but we desperately need the ability to conduct mine clearance under combat conditions which is something we don't currently have at all.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-20097822192457048612012-12-13T07:14:30.207-08:002012-12-13T07:14:30.207-08:00The CNO is trying to put a smiley face on a bad si...The CNO is trying to put a smiley face on a bad situation. What he should do is go out on a limb and call this what it is – horrible. What’s the worst that can happen to him or other four/three stars? They get retired a little early?<br /><br />In the 1940’s the USAF pushed strategic bombing hard, at the expense of the Navy/Marines Corps. The new supercarrier United States was cancelled to buy more B-36s, and a number of high-ranking officers like Dan Gallery and then CNO Denfield resigned in protest or had their careers cut short blasting the decision. <br /><br />Turns out nuclear warfare as a first resort wouldn’t work in Korea, Vietnam, etc. And carriers are still valuable platforms. The “Revolt of the Admirals” were right.<br /><br />Where is that revolt today? Eight month deployments the norm? It’s not sustainable in the long-term. Ships and sailors will wear out from it, and reenlistment rates will plummet. <br /><br />For the good of the Navy Admiral Greenert needs to make an issue about this. Even if it cuts his career a little short.<br /><br />A couple of months ago Admiral Harvey sent a message out right before his retirement lamenting the state of the Navy today. A fat lot of good it did; no one, outside of navalists, knew about it. Imagine if he had gotten fired/retired for his outspokenness instead: Everyone would have heard about it.<br /><br />The CNO, VCNO, and others need to call this garbage what it is, a hollowing out of the Navy and do it until either funding improves or they get cashiered.WireguidedMarinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16444356806279366997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-71567618993665239752012-12-13T05:51:31.527-08:002012-12-13T05:51:31.527-08:00"You don't need a mine countermeasures sh..."You don't need a mine countermeasures ship and a large helicopter drawing a sled to clear these things out. Smaller ships [from foreign navies] can become very effective."<br /><br />That's been the Navy's attitude for what, forever?<br /><br />Off the top of my head I can think of two instances where it didn't work out too well..<br /><br />Operation Earnest Will, we asked NATO members for help in clearing Iranian mines, and they refused until the Iranians planted mines outside the Gulf.<br /><br />Operation Desert Shield/Storm, we had all kinds of help, and yet took two hits on two ships, and couldn't even get past the planning stages of an amphibious invasion of Kuwait because of the mine threat.<br /><br />Every one of our potential opponents knows not to get into a straight up fight with us. They also know that we are horribly neglecting any type of MCM capabilities.<br /><br />The Iranians aren't using left over mines from WWI anymore, my understanding is they are getting quite sophisticated.<br /><br />It is idiotic to depend on other countries for this... and I think shows that we just aren't serious. And haven't been for some time.<br /><br />JonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com