tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post6922989015279694873..comments2024-03-28T04:22:28.228-07:00Comments on Navy Matters: Dynamic Mongoose ASW ExerciseComNavOpshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-28308730789250232352018-07-10T13:18:12.702-07:002018-07-10T13:18:12.702-07:00We are diminished.
I remember going there for Nort...We are diminished.<br />I remember going there for Northern Wedding with 3 US carriers and many surface ships culminating in an a sim attack on the Kola peninsula. Fighting through the gap and around that Arctic Circle corner....<br /><br />All the answer lie in what went on back in that period when we were hitting on all cylinders militarily...<br />Of course they always ignore that era to their own foolish detriment...<br /><br />b2 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-28051179405009928502018-07-10T08:57:39.103-07:002018-07-10T08:57:39.103-07:00Nothing like a battleship to enhance recruitment! ...Nothing like a battleship to enhance recruitment! The Navy should fly plane loads of kids to see the battleships. Of course, they'll be disappointed to find that Navy doesn't actually have any battleships anymore!ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-61487431624906808132018-07-10T08:18:45.304-07:002018-07-10T08:18:45.304-07:00So true. I came from the middle part of the US. T...So true. I came from the middle part of the US. Two of my uncles and I were in the Navy. Don't think they ever saw the ocean before they joined. I had only seen the ocean once during a family vacation. On that trip we visited the USS Alabama battleship museum, must have sealed my fate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-80852884880921053842018-07-09T07:49:38.807-07:002018-07-09T07:49:38.807-07:00All sailors are welcome! Interestingly, the US Na...All sailors are welcome! Interestingly, the US Navy often gets recruit sailors who have never seen a body of water before. You just never know who will have an innate attraction to the sea!ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-76277739835731794982018-07-09T06:30:02.680-07:002018-07-09T06:30:02.680-07:00Well, I am Czech. We do not have navy, because we ...Well, I am Czech. We do not have navy, because we do mot have sea. Our Ideal fleet size is 0, which we meet :-) I just like to read this blog, because I've been sailing since childhood and read books about ships. I really like this blog!Radekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02834704550892068850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-67426892750902459632018-07-09T05:25:19.527-07:002018-07-09T05:25:19.527-07:00"ideal fleet size"
This is easy to answ..."ideal fleet size"<br /><br />This is easy to answer. The answer is you need whatever size fleet meets your geopolitical/military strategic needs. If you want to be a global policeman then you need a massive fleet, like the US. If you want to be neutral and non-confrontational regardless of the circumstances then you don't need any navy. Or, any scenario in between. Tell me your country's geopolitical/military strategy and I'll tell you what size fleet you need.<br /><br />It's not related to coastline or any other physical attribute. It's just related to strategy.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-47122212541529553552018-07-09T01:53:47.314-07:002018-07-09T01:53:47.314-07:00I just summed the numbers in the comment above me....I just summed the numbers in the comment above me. I did not check it on wiki. So, the correct ratio for Norawy is 5M/11 ≈ 450 000.<br /><br />Anyway, population size is probably not a good start for general calculation of the ideal fleet size. Is there a better one? Aparently, it is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastline_paradox" rel="nofollow">not</a> the coastline length. It would be an interesting subject for an article.Radekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02834704550892068850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-78545711439519455642018-07-08T19:31:23.372-07:002018-07-08T19:31:23.372-07:00USN has 280 warships, not 480.USN has 280 warships, not 480.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-54048310919783586532018-07-08T15:23:26.323-07:002018-07-08T15:23:26.323-07:006x Skold class, 8x Kongsberg NSM, 76mm Super Rapid...6x Skold class, 8x Kongsberg NSM, 76mm Super Rapid. Nice stealthy missile corvette.<br /><br />Alte for NorgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-79934656966819168972018-07-08T08:14:05.445-07:002018-07-08T08:14:05.445-07:00Countries like Germany and Spain, two of the worst...Countries like Germany and Spain, two of the worst offenders, are unlikely to be invaded if the US removes troops as the Russians have to get through other countries to get to them but it will hit them economically and politically. That said, I'm not sure NATO would really go to war over Latvia if push came to shove - maybe sanctions? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-73629154519848873312018-07-08T07:08:01.445-07:002018-07-08T07:08:01.445-07:00Without agreeing or disagreeing, what would your p...Without agreeing or disagreeing, what would your position be if we did that and Russia invaded a country that wasn't contributing enough? Would you advocate letting Russia have that country or would you defend it which would negate the original premise?ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-65693201566408205302018-07-08T06:58:51.493-07:002018-07-08T06:58:51.493-07:00Well, that's an interesting philosophy. I sus...Well, that's an interesting philosophy. I suspect that would just encourage Russia to hit harder right from the start (nukes).<br /><br />First use of nukes by Norway, even in defense, would make it very difficult, politically, for the US to justify stepping in with its own nukes.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-17910470307182482212018-07-08T06:45:38.852-07:002018-07-08T06:45:38.852-07:00"Warships: 25"
Where do you get 25 wars..."Warships: 25"<br /><br />Where do you get 25 warships? Wiki lists five frigates and 6 subs plus some patrol boats which are decidedly not warships. So, I'm seeing 11 warships, not 25.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-82501423185188373422018-07-08T03:17:14.550-07:002018-07-08T03:17:14.550-07:00Trump should pull all US assets out of countries t...Trump should pull all US assets out of countries that don't spend the 2% and re-locate them to those who do. US forces are huge contributors to local economies and this might have an impact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-48956562685032013172018-07-07T23:41:55.931-07:002018-07-07T23:41:55.931-07:00I do believe that for countries like Norway (relat...I do believe that for countries like Norway (relatively low population and high HDP) the best solution for defence are nuclear weapons.<br />If Russia occupy some areas from Norway (or Estonia for example) will the nuclear powers of NATO send some nukes to Russia?<br />Or it will be "Why die for Danzig?" again?<br />The nordic countries each on their own, Poland and the baltic countries ( all three countries together) can from a economic and scientific pow support a nuclear program. From a political pow that is another story...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-52148547683685055552018-07-07T21:33:52.331-07:002018-07-07T21:33:52.331-07:00Sounds like Norway needs to get its birthrate incr...Sounds like Norway needs to get its birthrate increased in order to match the US 677,000 citizens per ship. Or the US should go to an all small ship Navy so we can match the 200,000 citizen per ship. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-63347262439422746252018-07-07T16:13:15.333-07:002018-07-07T16:13:15.333-07:00https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/03/nato-spending-2017...https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/03/nato-spending-2017.html<br /><br />Only 5 countries in NATO besides the U.S. meet the 2% of GDP on defense they agreed to. All of Germany's subs are inop. They are free riders on U.S. defense. I say if they don't meet the 2% goal they are in breach of contract and article 5 rights are suspended until they are current on spending.Robtzuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17363390230073476769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-30929952645911259462018-07-07T15:24:18.083-07:002018-07-07T15:24:18.083-07:00Norway population: 5M
Warships: 25
One warship on ...Norway population: 5M<br />Warships: 25<br />One warship on 200 000 citizens. <br /><br />US population: 325M<br />Warships: 480<br />One warship on 677 000 citizens. <br /><br />Radekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02834704550892068850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-71163271198841767612018-07-07T14:02:22.124-07:002018-07-07T14:02:22.124-07:00Norwegian Navy
5 Frigates (oldest commissioned 200...Norwegian Navy<br />5 Frigates (oldest commissioned 2006)<br />, 6 SSK, 6 LCS (armed), 8 MCM<br /><br />So more working LCS and almost as many MCM assets<br />as the USN. Harrumph. <br />And the Oscarsburg fortress has a full stock of Whitehead torpedoes.<br /><br />Alt for Norge<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-21188231790457110182018-07-07T06:10:21.806-07:002018-07-07T06:10:21.806-07:00"No ones actually learning how to hunt Russia..."No ones actually learning how to hunt Russian Submarines, certainly not fleets of the things."<br /><br />Spot on!<br /><br />"Certainly looks like the Russians have gamed, and are now practicing how to seize Svalbard or Iceland or Greenland."<br /><br />Russia is conducting serious exercises while NATO is conducting political exercises.<br /><br />Good comment!ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-63190234376643771392018-07-07T04:49:47.940-07:002018-07-07T04:49:47.940-07:00There was also Dynamic Manta, a similar sized exer...There was also Dynamic Manta, a similar sized exercise in the med.<br />But again, at best, all thats really going to be tested is that a French Frigate can talk to a German ASW fixed wing and a Dutch Helicopter<br /><br />No ones actually learning how to hunt Russian Submarines, certainly not fleets of the things.<br /><br />Certainly looks like the Russians have gamed, and are now practicing how to seize Svalbard or Iceland or Greenland.TrThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316335177828136131noreply@blogger.com