tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post4783838668264836428..comments2024-03-28T07:56:09.239-07:00Comments on Navy Matters: Cooperative Strategy - Foundational PrinciplesComNavOpshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-39782901308520570342015-03-25T13:39:28.106-07:002015-03-25T13:39:28.106-07:00My biggest caution on deterrence is we view the ef...My biggest caution on deterrence is we view the effectiveness or lack there of from our perspective. I want to hear it from the people we are attempting to deter. Does China feel deterred by our presence in the China seas? Is the Philippines reassured by out forward presence? What about North Korea with the Army in South Korea? Or is South Korea the ones that actually deter North Korea? Has North Korea given up on the dream of conquering South Korea and does Kim Il Sung now just want to hold onto his own little personal kingdom? Does Iran check it's ambitions because of the CVN in the Arabian Gulf or is Iran content to conquer Iraq through use of proxy militias?<br /><br />Even the case of the pirates off the coast of Somalia; what actually stopped the piracy was not warships but instead mercenaries, sorry private security contractors, that were stationed aboard each merchant ship. Deterrence came not from a DDG-51 or LPD but from 4 mercenaries armed with HK-416s that shot up skiffs that tried to approach the merchant ship. USMC 0802https://www.blogger.com/profile/08575800617871827503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-84280275911274729352015-03-25T02:24:36.299-07:002015-03-25T02:24:36.299-07:00True, true. And we are quite worried about that. T...True, true. And we are quite worried about that. The current order is for 48 F35B, supposedly expanding to some fictional figure of 180. Helicopter bourn AEW has been accelerated recently comprising 10 units able to fly from any front line ship. <br />3 or 4 per carrier is anticipated. Tanking is an interesting one. Designs for Helo tanking have been seen, and the MOD was caught in discussions about the MV22 at Farnbrough, similar drawings were seen of a V22 tanker. Seriously though I doubt we will see a tanker. I anticipate this is likely to mean a strike range of slightly less then 400nm combined with Falklands style fast deployable austere forward basing.<br />I personally will sleep a lot safer in my bed when our sovereign forces are back up to full spectrum capability. And with all due respect to the US, I hartily agree with your post, in that we have to be able to take care of ourselves, and any move to combining forces as some kind of total solution is folly.<br />BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-64655388698254386872015-03-24T11:04:21.634-07:002015-03-24T11:04:21.634-07:00On the deterrence historically being ineffective, ...On the deterrence historically being ineffective, like most preventative measures, it's very hard to prove that it was the cause when it works, but is obvious when it fails. Its very hard to say on any specific day that there wasn't an invasion because of deterrence, rather than some other reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-7055360957898415272015-03-24T09:10:59.772-07:002015-03-24T09:10:59.772-07:00"Sorry about the aircraft carrier thing "..."Sorry about the aircraft carrier thing "<br /><br />As you well know, the value of a carrier lies wholly in its air wing. Too many so-called carriers around the world contain very small air wings. A carrier with only a dozen fixed wing aircraft is of very marginal value. I very much hope that for each carrier the RN acquires an air wing of 30-40 fixed wing aircraft and the support aircraft like AEW, tankers, and EW to maximize the potential of the wing. My fear is that will prove to be unpalatable from a budget perspective and you'll wind up with carriers that have very little capability due to very small and restricted air wings. Those support aircraft are vital, too. An air wing without AEW, tanking, and EW is an air wing that is significantly limited in what it can do.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-82920052195922110272015-03-24T08:46:46.794-07:002015-03-24T08:46:46.794-07:00Ooooop topical.
https://www.defencetalk.com/franc...Ooooop topical.<br /><br />https://www.defencetalk.com/france-displaces-britain-as-key-us-military-ally-63600/<br /><br />According to a recent RAND study US and France are now BFF's<br />Facebook friend requests accepted and everything. UK is shunned ! BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-88255103564045242932015-03-24T08:31:39.632-07:002015-03-24T08:31:39.632-07:00Kind of tough for a Navy to create "foundatio...Kind of tough for a Navy to create "foundational principles" when one doesn't have strategic goals and guidelines from higher leadership to use a basis.JInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-61343096494515679552015-03-24T07:37:46.602-07:002015-03-24T07:37:46.602-07:00On a more serious note. The purpose of ANY countri...On a more serious note. The purpose of ANY countries armed forces has to be the protection of their sovereign interests. <br /><br />And, as you say, by definition any countries interests will differ from the next. Otherwise we would all just be 1 happy country, now wouldn’t we?<br /><br />There is a huge about of talk about this “never going to war without allies” cr*p, and apart from the UK and US I don’t think I have ever seen any 2 countries actually consistently stick to these treaties. Even then we have occasionally gone our separate ways.<br /><br />It’s just an excuse to save budget, look at NATO, can you get them to pay their way ( Estonia and Greece notwithstanding, well done you two ! tho I refer to the patrol boat comment earlier )<br /><br />Alliances are there to combat alliances ( lets all try to pretend the Warsaw Pact is still about ) sadly every individual country will still need its Navy.<br /><br />And the funds need to be proportional to the value of the country. Cos the shinier the stone the more bad men want to knick it !<br /><br />Beno <br /><br />P.S. Sorry about the aircraft carrier thing :( <br /> 2 spangly new ones on the way now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-8827102928119898142015-03-24T07:17:51.972-07:002015-03-24T07:17:51.972-07:00HAHAHAHAHAHA. ( Sorry France. )
But you just made ...HAHAHAHAHAHA. ( Sorry France. )<br />But you just made me laff A LOT !<br />BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-16820264466240273482015-03-24T04:03:21.298-07:002015-03-24T04:03:21.298-07:00No, I didn't.No, I didn't.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-42993588375927785622015-03-24T02:20:42.764-07:002015-03-24T02:20:42.764-07:00LOL you forgot France ;)
BenoLOL you forgot France ;)<br /><br />BenoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-16410660193808860262015-03-24T01:31:53.846-07:002015-03-24T01:31:53.846-07:00Well, the conclusion is pretty clear. The document...Well, the conclusion is pretty clear. The document is aimed at persuading the rest of the USN and Congress that the USN is, and will remain, a world-dominating force, even though Congress isn't willing to fund such a force. <br /><br />Self-delusion is very comforting, and allows the relevant officers to continue with their own career goals. And they can always hope that it won't go bad while they're in charge. John Dallmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01184719865727491672noreply@blogger.com