tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post6957304371390298045..comments2024-03-28T07:56:09.239-07:00Comments on Navy Matters: Aegis Test ShipComNavOpshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-37756013874499918402017-03-22T10:30:27.477-07:002017-03-22T10:30:27.477-07:00Testing Aegis seems eminently useful. Why do beli...Testing Aegis seems eminently useful. Why do believe it to be a waste? <br /><br />Shock trials have nothing to do with an Aegis test ship.<br /><br />How does an issue with Port Royal have anything to do with a self defense test ship?<br /><br />You've offered a very poor quality comment. Please back it up with some logic, explanations, and data.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-43895624267206925972017-03-22T10:13:17.673-07:002017-03-22T10:13:17.673-07:00An AEGIS Self Defense Test Ship would be the bigge...An AEGIS Self Defense Test Ship would be the biggest waste of money that the government ever spent. The issue with the port Royal has nothing to do with a Self Defense Test Ship. Shock trials were performed on these ships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-28520109125031018632017-03-17T17:31:59.400-07:002017-03-17T17:31:59.400-07:00That would be logical.That would be logical.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-45999837730664043542017-03-17T15:07:14.629-07:002017-03-17T15:07:14.629-07:00Given that the Port Royal is set for early retirem...Given that the Port Royal is set for early retirement, why not use it as a target practice vessel for testing? AltandMainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01014823246265859953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-31299230919457150922017-03-17T10:09:07.517-07:002017-03-17T10:09:07.517-07:00The CGNs were - it did end well.
In fact the test...The CGNs were - it did end well.<br /><br />In fact the tests were cancelled about 60% through.<br /><br />GABAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-4290491041636044272017-03-16T05:48:12.131-07:002017-03-16T05:48:12.131-07:00"One of the points that came out of the Aegis..."One of the points that came out of the Aegis degradation investigations was that the Aegis techs didn't even know that the systems were degraded."<br /><br />That's frightening. <br /><br />I wonder if they ever did, and we lost the institutional knowledge, or if it was always supposed to be contractor dependent. JFWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095723023404412328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-26307942120811895182017-03-15T18:58:56.150-07:002017-03-15T18:58:56.150-07:00Yes, the Yorktown and Mobile Bay are two Aegis cru...Yes, the Yorktown and Mobile Bay are two Aegis cruisers that I know underwent shock trials. I also know the Burke class Churchill and Jones did, too. I don't know, offhand, how many others. I have no idea what equipment was on board during the trials and I've never seen any reports of the results.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-65677513359729979782017-03-15T18:05:43.598-07:002017-03-15T18:05:43.598-07:00Simple question. Had an AEGIS cruiser or destroyer...Simple question. Had an AEGIS cruiser or destroyer ever had a real shock trial with functional equipment?<br /><br />Plus if they have are the results known. Howdypartnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14995152060704851499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-39439950898098073752017-03-15T13:02:09.305-07:002017-03-15T13:02:09.305-07:00That's potentially a good point except that we...That's potentially a good point except that we don't know whether the Aegis system was fully mission capable after that. One of the points that came out of the Aegis degradation investigations was that the Aegis techs didn't even know that the systems were degraded. It took in-depth manufacturer's assistance to even assess the state of the systems.<br /><br />So, we just don't know.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-82792935704743728552017-03-15T12:36:41.126-07:002017-03-15T12:36:41.126-07:00That's great! It still begs the question what ...That's great! It still begs the question what happened to port royal, and how was her damage different from Princeton's? JFWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095723023404412328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-22147142634828002212017-03-15T12:35:01.183-07:002017-03-15T12:35:01.183-07:00The folks aboard the Princeton (CG-59) might want ...The folks aboard the Princeton (CG-59) might want to remind you of their mine strike and subsequent mission readiness. Springboredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09953280187473460906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-65463744467759825162017-03-15T11:41:56.395-07:002017-03-15T11:41:56.395-07:00Aegis shoots it down. At least, that's the th...Aegis shoots it down. At least, that's the theory.ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-68874833137320144312017-03-15T10:49:38.823-07:002017-03-15T10:49:38.823-07:00With that big radar emitting, what happens when an...With that big radar emitting, what happens when an enemy fire an anti-radiation missile?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-54121317951497173052017-03-15T08:25:09.733-07:002017-03-15T08:25:09.733-07:00I've refrained from posting on this because no...I've refrained from posting on this because no one outside the investigation has any concrete facts sufficient to offer meaningful analysis. Besides, the facts that are out there are pretty straightforward - the Navy has a lot of corrupt leaders. Not exactly earthshaking news to followers of this blog! I'll post on this if/when there is some analysis of value that I can offer. It's awfully disappointing, though, isn't it?ComNavOpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669644332369727431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-63362481434308817632017-03-15T08:18:04.702-07:002017-03-15T08:18:04.702-07:00This is another excellent post disclosing gross ne...This is another excellent post disclosing gross negligence in the U.S. Navy. Unsurprisingly, this gross negligence appears to be accompanied by gross corruption. The Washington Post reports that:<br /><br />"Eight current and former Navy officials — including an admiral — were named in a new indictment in the “Fat Leonard” bribery case on Tuesday. Leonard Glenn Francis, a Malaysian defense contractor, has pleaded guilty to bribing “scores” of Navy officials with cash, prostitutes and other gifts — such as hotel stays, airfare and electronics — so that they would feed him classified or inside information, which he used to defraud the Navy. The slowly unfolding investigation has exposed a staggering degree of corruption within the 7th Fleet."<br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/seducing-the-seventh-fleet/<br /><br />I wonder how deep this rabbit hole will go and how many other rabbit holes are yet to be discovered ... color me profoundly pessimistic ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5579907756656776056.post-987653802378130442017-03-15T06:38:35.215-07:002017-03-15T06:38:35.215-07:00I totally agree with this. 100%.
The Port Royal ...I totally agree with this. 100%. <br /><br />The Port Royal situation makes me wonder how Aegis would work after a strong storm with severe sea states.<br /><br />Further, how has Aegis evolved as the ASCM's have evolved? What about the computing environment Aegis is based on? Has that been upgraded since the 80's or are we still working on something akin to an IBM PC in computing power?<br /><br />There are a ton of questions. <br /><br />We won't know the efficacy of this until we test it. I fear that this will never happen because the Navy fears the answer. <br /><br />Dumb Question: Aegis controls the standards, does it also control ESSM? JFWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095723023404412328noreply@blogger.com